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Wednesday, March 19, 2008

POLITICS: The Death Penalty

Over the past 5 months I have been leading the college & career Sunday school class at my church. The time I have spent each week preparing each lesson has changed my views on many things. I feel that my eyes have had scales of indifference falling off them. My belief that the death penalty was just and ought to be used as punishment was being challenged by Jesus. Jesus spoke to me through the many contemporary books on justice that I have been reading and also through His Word, specifically the prophets of the Old Testament and the sayings of Christ himself as recorded in the four Gospels.

How is a Christian to begin to process the use of the death penalty by their government as the ultimate punishment for convicted criminals?

First we turn to Scripture to see what God has revealed. In the Old Testament we see God pass down laws that call for retributive justice, an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. Therefore the conclusion is drawn when one life is taken away by murder that person who committed the murder their life being taken away by the governing authority is justice. We then turn to the sermon on the mount, where Jesus recites this Jewish law but has a different answer.

Matthew 5: 38-42 (NIV)
"You have heard that it was said, 'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.' But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you."

Here Jesus says that each person is responsible to respond to injustice done to them with a nonviolent response that gives of themselves completely to the one taking something from them.

At this point many people cry contradiction and throw up their hands since it seems we are pitting an Old Testament God of justice against a New Testament God of mercy. I don't believe this is the case because God reveals His character in the Old Testament as a God who loves justice and mercy.

Micah 6:8
"He has showed you, O man, what is good.
And what does the LORD require of you?
To act justly and to love mercy
and to walk humbly with your God."

This verse in Micah is one of many that show how God cares deeply for all people and wants them to seek justice and mercy in their relationships with each other.

Since God was giving the commands directly the those leading Israel in the Old Testament they didn't have to wonder how he wanted them to act, but what about our contemporary world of nation-states. Do they have the authority to carry out punishing evil? To answer this question we must turn to Paul's letter to the Romans.

Romans 13:1-7 (NIV)
"Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you. For he is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience. This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God's servants, who give their full time to governing. Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor."

Here Paul clearly states that all governments exist by God's authority and that He has delegated them authority. Those in authority are God's servants and He has delegated them the authority to punish evil and commend good. He also mentions that they bear the sword which means they have the right to use armed force. Note though, that the type of punishment and to what degree is not mentioned in the Romans text.

Taking all this into consideration it seems that it is just for the government to use the death penalty to punish convicted murderers. This is where I remained for a long time in my conviction but I can no longer support this position for several reasons.

Looking deeper in the heart of God towards how God treats His enemies I find that He over and over again offers mercy instead of judgement. In the story of Jonah. God calls Jonah to preach against the city of Nineveh and when He finally does the city repents. This is God's response

Jonah 3:10
"When God saw what they did and how they turned from their evil ways, he had compassion and did not bring upon them the destruction he had threatened."

The conversation between Jonah and God that follows is very telling of where Jonah's heart was and where God's heart is. Jonah storms out of the city to pout still hoping for the city to be destroyed and God asks him why He is angry.

Jonah 4:1-2
"But Jonah was greatly displeased and became angry. He prayed to the LORD, "O LORD, is this not what I said when I was still at home? That is why I was so quick to flee to Tarshish. I knew that you are a gracious and compassionate God, slow to anger and abounding in love, a God who relents from sending calamity."

Jonah tells us how gracious and compassionate God is even to His enemies. I love how God responds because He points out how far off Jonah's focus is from His.

Jonah 4:10-11
"But the LORD said, "You have been concerned about this vine, though you did not tend it or make it grow. It sprang up overnight and died overnight. But Nineveh has more than a hundred and twenty thousand people who cannot tell their right hand from their left, and many cattle as well. Should I not be concerned about that great city?"

This story from the Old Testament shows us how all along God consistently cared about all people, those who worshiped Him and those who didn't. Going back to what Jesus says in the sermon on the mount is where I believe God is most clear about this issue.

Matthew 5:43-48
"You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect."

Here Jesus cracks out hearts wide open by declaring that God wants you to love your enemy. You are not to wish ill upon your enemies, in fact you are supposed to pray for them. Now we must do the hard work of what it means to love our enemy specifically in terms of capital punishment.

Would love want the murderer to be executed for him crimes? I cannot say yes to this question any more. Love wants justice to be done by making sure the murderer gets a fair trial and is sentenced to time in prison accordingly to his crime because it does have consequences. But I don't think those consequences should be execution. It may be just for the murderer to be executed by the government but I think we need to seek mercy in this situation. Mercy that gives the murderer an opportunity to find salvation in Christ. We cannot know for sure if someone will repent and embrace Christ before they die but we can at least not shorten their time to consider making that decision.

How can a Christian support prison ministries to witness to the lost in prison and death row but support the death penalty which limits the opportunities for those ministers to share Christ with that person? This is not a consistent position to have. If God commands us to love our enemies and shows us over and over again in His Word and in our lives that He is abundantly gracious and merciful to forgive, then we ought to have laws that do the same.

Those of us who are disciples of Jesus must remember that we were enemies of God before we repented to follow Him and since we have been show mercy let us show relentless mercy to our enemies.

Matthew 5:7
"Blessed are the merciful,
for they will be shown mercy."

Friday, February 29, 2008

DISCIPLESHIP: Lament as Worship

The Lord has been revealing to me a lot to me lately through a Bible study group that I have been attending. We are studying through the book of Psalms. Even though we only studied 6 Psalms so far is has become obvious to me that David is lamenting to God a lot. On the surface it may look like woes is me, my life sucks kind of stuff but it is not. David is crying out to the heart of God and claiming God's promises of healing and restoration. On a first pass through it seems as though David is being arrogant when He says so confidently that God hears Him and will be rescue Him. But when reading it a second and third time the truth is revealed that David is being drawn closer to the heart of God from his lament of his trials and the trials of the nation of Israel. David is focusing on the attributes of God that is He is just yet merciful.

So all that gets me thinking about lamenting as a form of worship. Why do I not personally seek a state of brokenness before God? Why is it so rare for corporate worship to focus on lament? When I tried to find contemporary praise songs that focus on lamenting to God and being broken, I couldn't think of any. Have we lost this form of worship? Do we come to church just to be sing about how great is our God and how awesome is His love but not willing to be broken about what God's heart is broken about?

These are intensely deep questions and each of us needs to do some introspection into our relationship with God about whether we are willing to be broken and lament in worship to Him. But we also need to answer the question corporately. From what I have been learning about revival is that it begins in the Body of Christ when they get real with God about themselves and the world around them. Revival starts with lament. The few times I have experienced corporate lament and confession of sin it has been intensely real and emotionally raw. The people of God confess their sins to one another and receive healing from bringing what was once in the darkness into the light. When we confess our sins corporately and are willing to be broken in spirit we come to end of ourselves. When we come to the end of ourselves we find God is there. All the wonderful characteristics about our God suddenly take on new meaning when we have been willing to confess our sins and have our spirit broken. We will find God's spirit will fill us and then when we sing joyful praise to Him it becomes all the more real and meaningful.

David begins Psalm 5 with

"Listen to my words, Lord, consider my lament. Hear my cry for help, my King, my God, for to you I pray."

David ends Psalm 5 with

"Surely, Lord, you bless the righteous; you surround them with your favor as with a shield."

David poured his heart out to the Lord in lament and afterward was able take hold of God's promises and praise Him for who He is.

Wednesday, August 22, 2007

CHURCH: Are You Part of the Body of Christ?

I ask the question, are you part of the Body of Christ? If you answer yes, then my next question is does your attitude about the Church reflect that reality?

I just finished reading this very good book, Serious Times, in which the author asked this very question. He said that many evangelical Christians have a profoundly negative attitude about the Church and often express it more than most outside the Church. The Holy Spirit began to work on my heart as I sat the book down and contemplated how this applied to me. I have been speaking negatively about the Church as if I existed separate from it. I have had conversations with many people in which we say things like "the Church sucks at relevant outreach" or "the Church is a bunch of old people holding onto tradition". The attitude that has created in my mind is that somehow I can be separate from that, as if "the Church" doesn't not include me or anyone doing effective ministry.

I took this deeper in how I think about denominations and local congregations. The Holy Spirit asked the question about how I view various denominations? Do I talk about them as if they are part of the same Body of Christ as I am? The answer sadly is no. This seems so small but I think it affects our thinking more than we know. I have heard Christians talk worse about churches and denominations than any non-believer I have met.

But this is not what the apostle Paul tells us in Ephesians 4: "There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all."

I have been convicted to change my view of the Church and remind myself that I am a part of the same Body as each local congregation of believers that calls Jesus Lord and Savior of all, no matter where in the world or of what denomination.

But this is not enough, it goes deeper. What about how we view conflict in the Church. Do we just leave the Church when we don't like something? Do we just leave the Church when we have conflict with members? I believe that if we view ourselves as intimately connected to these other members there would be less people walking out at the first sign of conflict or something they don't like. Paul uses the analogy of a body, in which each part functions with a Divine purpose, and cannot just leave the rest of the body.

Are you walking out on the Body because you don't want to deal with the hard stuff? Are you walking out on the Body because you don't like something someone said? Does your attitude of the Church reflect what the apostle Paul says it should be? If any of this applies to you, I challenge you to stop putting down the Church and acting like they are not a part of the same Body you belong to. God has convicted me of my attitude and I hope to stand up for the Church and humbly seek resolution to conflicts in the Body. Please join me in this and encourage others to do so.

Tuesday, August 21, 2007

ENVIRONMENTALISM: Just Because You Can...

Just because you can leave all your electronics on in the house all the time because you don't worry about your electricity going out doesn't mean that you should.

Just because you can take long showers and leave the water running in the sink because your water is always clean and available doesn't mean that you should.

Just because you can throw everything away without recycling because it is easier than sorting the recyclables from the trash doesn't mean that you should.

In recent conversations I have had with friends and with the Lord I have come to think about how I view our resource blessing in America. Most of us can get as much clean water and electricity as we want and are not required to recycle anything. Up until about a year ago I viewed conserving resources as important only when they were scarce. It makes sense that when there is a water or electricity shortage to save as much as possible, but the rest of the time its ok to use as much as I want.

This was challenged when I spent 6 weeks in China last summer on an InterVarsity Global Project. In China these same resources are scarce all the time, so much that at the University they had 1 shower house in which the students could take group showers twice a week, Thursday evening and Sunday evening. Not only was there not enough clean water for everyone to take showers everyday but there would not be enough electricity to pump that much water. This got me thinking about my everyday practices back in America. What does God think of it? Does He care?

I have since completely changed my view because of the Holy Spirit's conviction. Just because I can use a certain resource as much as I want does not give me the right to do so. This is not a liberal tree-hugging hippie kind of thing, this is a profoundly Christian concept. God's Word tells us that we will be held accountable for how we have taken care of His creation, how we have used or abused the resources of the earth. This is about being a good steward of what God has blessed us with. Christians should be the best environmentalist of all, not because it has become popular to 'go green' but because we want to be obedient to our Lord. It is also reminds of how our brothers and sisters of the church around the world live with a resource scarcity constantly.

Friday, April 27, 2007

C.S. Lewis: The Ethical Theory of C.S. Lewis

This school year I have been working on an undergrad research project in partnership with my advisor Dr. Phillips and Dr. Rourke. We met about every 2 weeks this year and discussed a C.S. Lewis book that we read. Through the readings and the discussion I have come up with a preliminary abstract that summarizes what I believe Lewis is saying about Ethics.

C.S. Lewis has had a dramatic influence on western culture through his famous children’s fantasy series, The Chronicles of Narnia. On an academic level he has contributed a plethora of works in the areas of theology, philosophy, literature, and literary criticism during his time as a professor at Oxford University and then Cambridge University. Informed by his Christian faith, Lewis’ works contribute to the philosophical discussions surrounding a consistent normative ethics. The purpose of this research was to discover and extract what his normative ethics is from his prolific works. Lewis believes that the natural law informs all societies at all times in history about what is right and wrong. The natural law points toward God as the objective standard of morality and is guided by God’s love, which is charity. According to Lewis, the purpose of every thought and action of humans is to become more charitable. Referencing human history, Lewis shows how all humans are inherently evil by nature. We all have free will to choose to do good or evil. Left solely to our own power, we would choose evil and habituate ourselves to do evil with a continually smaller chance of choosing a good action the next time. Lewis here introduces the idea of God’s Grace, which is the only power that can turn a human towards charity and continually seek it. In essence, Lewis’s normative ethics is focused on habituating charitable thoughts and actions that are powered by God’s Grace and motivated by God’s character.

Those of you who have read a lot of Lewis's writings feel free to point out anything that you think is incorrect in my assessment of his writings.

Thursday, April 26, 2007

DISCIPLESHIP: The Authority of Scripture

My mind has recently been captured by God's Word and how I have been so wrong in the past about my interpretation of His Word. Several friends have commented on how much I have changed in my interpretations of what I believe Scripture says about certain issues from when I started at Clarion. Some people view this as evidence of me growing and maturing in my faith and others view this as a negative thing of me having been corrupted. These comments have caused me to reflect on a deeper level these changes in myself. Why have I changed?

I think the answer to the question has 2 parts. First is that I have really learned to engage in healthy discussion with people who have differing Biblical interpretations. I used to make fun of the conclusions of a person's argument whom I disagreed without every actually listening to their reasoning to see if they had a valid point. Since I have begun to do this over the last 2 years I have seen that others have very good points that I ignored before without critically thinking about them. Second is that I have learned that really believing in the authority of Scripture means constantly going back and re-examining it. This means being open to correction by the Holy Spirit as I uncover new pieces of Scripture or read something I have never read before.

A crucial distinction must be made when talking about the authority of Scripture. Being faithful to an specific interpretation of a particular Biblical passage is NOT being faithful to the Scriptures. As I have wrestled with the Holy Spirit on Scripture issues that I have struggled with, He constantly brought me back to the fact that I need to be humble in the process and realize that just because God got it right doesn't mean I will interpret it right. Bible scholars have already shown that there have been errors in the translation of the King James Version of the Bible. Some of you may immediately have red flags going up and feel that I have degraded Scripture. The belief that Scripture is inerrant is about the collection of original manuscripts not the modern day English translations.

I have been learning that humility is absolutely key in the process. A humble approach to interpreting Scripture is evidenced by a constant willingness to evaluate differing interpretations and go back to the original text over and over again seeking to understand it better and better. This is why I have have changed many of my Biblical interpretations on certain issues. And I am willing to discuss those issues with anyone who wants to. Even now and for the rest of my life I am willing to constantly re-evaluate my interpretation of Scripture because when I get to Heaven it is likely that I will be right on some things and wrong on others. Humility is absolutely necessary if we profess a belief in the authority of Scripture.

Monday, March 5, 2007

DISCIPLESHIP: What is God's Calling on my life?

Ever since Urbana I have been praying a lot about what the calling of God on my life. In the past year I have experienced tons of growth in my walk with the Lord as I have been seeing a whole new dimension to the Gospel of Jesus that I never saw before. I am speaking of the Kingdom message. This Kingdom message is about righting the wrongs of injustice now on this earth. This is how we bring the Kingdom here. I have often said that I wanted to see God's Kingdom come on our campus and in the world but what have I done for it? I have proclaimed the forgiveness of sins and cared about the eternal resting place of their soul but have neglected the current physical state that people are in. I have remained ignorant of much of the injustice in the world as long as it didn't directly affect my little world. But that has all changed in the last year.

Beginning with MAC training January and February 2006 I began to see the relevance of the Gospel in other cultures and that I need to be informed about other cultures to know how to share the Gospel with them. Then I went on the Cleveland Urban Plunge in March 2006 and learned about the relevance of the Gospel in the inner city and my ignorance of what was going on there. There were Christians down dirty in the trenches of the spiritual battle and physical battles of the inner city and I was just sitting comfortably on the outside ignorant of it. Then I went on Xining Global Project for 6 weeks in the summer of 2006. My eyes were opened wide to the plight of the Christians struggling to see God's Kingdom come in China. I was extremely humbled by how financially rich I was compared to them but also how spiritually rich my Chinese friends were compared to me. This past school year I have been reading More Than Equals with the Community Group Leaders and my eyes have been open to my ignorance of the racial reconciliation issue and how I need to work through these racial issues with my ethnic minority brothers and sisters. Then I went to Urbana at the end of December 2006. I was amazed to see the diversity of God's people represented there and how we sang multi-lingual songs the whole conference.

All this put together God has given me a passion for seeing the Kingdom message of Jesus to actualize in all the world. I care about the injustice of the world and want to educate myself on these issues. I want to go on staff with IV for awhile because I believe changing the campus can change the world. Then I want to go back to school to get my Doctorate in Philosophy and teach at a secular University in the philosophy department because I want to have influence in the classroom showing students how Christianity can stand up to the philosophical criticism. Then I want to go back to school and get my doctorate in Political Science and then to law school. Then I want to become a U.S. Senator. I want a chance to stand up for the Biblical principles in our great country and see God's justice come to all people of the world. In that kind of position I can work toward ending systemic injustice which is at much of the root of injustice in the world. I am always open to how the Spirit moves in my heart and this will take a lifetime to all work out but based on a logical assessment of the passions that God has given me and my interests and my spiritual gifts this is what I think I am called to do. To God be the GLORY!!!

Saturday, March 3, 2007

MOVIES: Amazing Grace

Audrey and I went on a date last night to see the newly released movie Amazing Grace. Go to the link that I posted here to watch the trailer and read about the movie. This movie is about the true story of William Wilberforce's journey of getting the English Parliament to abolish slavery and the slave trade in the entire British Empire.

Wilberforce is on a personal journey through the movie as he returns to his Christian faith that he was so committed to as a child in John Newton's church. John Newton was a slave trader who committed his life to Christ and quit the slave trade and became a pastor, he was Wilberforce's pastor as he grew up. Wilberforce was moved by his faith to believe that God created all men equal and that no man should own another. The turning point in the movie is when he comes back to his faith in God and is fully committed to it and wondering if he should quit being a Member of Parliament in order to serve the God he loved so dearly. Wilberforce's best friend, William Pitt, became Prime Minister. Newton tells him he has work to do for God as a Member of Parliament. Pitt brings him to meet some abolitionist friends who convince him that he can both serve God and be a member of Parliament by working towards the abolition of the slave trade. It is a long journey and a hard one but in the end Wilberforce's bill passes the House of Commons and slavery is abolished.

This movie moved me to tears almost the whole way through, especially whenever John Newton was in the scene. I highly recommend everyone go see it whether you are a Christian or not. The movie is very accurate as far as I can tell in its history. It spans the time of the American Revolution and French Revolution. Wilberforce's story is a great example of how someone can put their faith into action in their vocation and change the world. William Wilberforce is a world changer.

What is great about this movie is that Walden Media is on a campaign to abolish modern day slavery by raising awareness through this movie. Please sign the petition at the website and become an abolitionist.

Monday, February 26, 2007

METAPHYSICS: What is a Christian Metaphysic?

I just finished reading the book Metaphysics by William Hasker. I was reading it for my own personal growth and to supplement a Christian point of view for my Philosophy of Mind class. This book really changed my understanding of what it means to be a Christian philosopher. I used to think that in philosophy I can assume what God reveals to us in the Bible as groundwork and then move on from there. I no longer take that view point. To do that is to study theology. Theology and philosophy are supposed to be different and I would just be replacing philosophy with theology. I honestly never understood the difference between them, but now I do. This is not to say that I stop believing what God has said in the Bible to be true but that I try to come to those conclusions using philosophical reasoning.

I believe that the Christian faith is capable to stand up against all logical attacks. God is a logically consistent God and no logically true argument can ever knock Him down. This is where I come in as a Christian philosopher. I set out to prove the existence and nature of God through philosophical reasoning. The reason why this is so important is that theology is studied by people who already believe in the existence of God according to His revealed Word but philosophy is studied by people with all kinds of worldviews. Some of these worldviews include the idea of a God and others exclude it.

Metaphysics is all about answering the question: what is the ultimate nature of reality? There are many different metaphysical points of view about reality of the world, humans, and God. Can we develop a Christian metaphysic? This is what Hasker says in response.

"There is no one metaphysical system which is definitely Christian, but rather a number of systems, ll of them more or less inconsistent with each other and all of them more or less adaquate to the content of Christian faith. But the fact that Christianity is a religion of salvation also suggests that in a sense no philosophical system can be fully Christian, because no philosophical system can express the unique content of Christianity."

This idea was hard for me to grasp because I have such a strong bias towards objective Truth and here it seems that Christians can hold different metaphysical beliefs and both still staying true to Biblical revelation about reality. When I think about this further I think I understand and it is humbling. Basically the Bible tells us a lot but not everything about the ultimate nature of reality.

What would make these Christian metaphysical theories Christian? Hasker responds to this with 3 things that a Christian metaphysic must have.
1. It must speak of God
2. It must speak of Creation by God.
3. It must speak of man as the image of God.

Is there at least some broad categories that all Christian metaphysics should fall into? Hasker points out that a Christian metaphysic must be theistic by nature and cannot be naturalistic, pantheistic, or panentheistic. This is because theism is the only one that acknowledges God's true character as Creator of the world and existing independently of His creation. Also a Christian metaphysic must adopt philosophical realism concerning the physical world.

An important note to end on is that no philosophical reasoning or human reflection can bring us the message of salvation through Jesus Christ. This is the limit of this discipline. The Apostle Paul expands on this in 1 Corinthians 2:4-8.

"My message and my preaching were not with wise and persuasive words, but with a demonstration of the Spirit's power, so that your faith might not rest on human wisdom, but on God's power. We do, however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. No, we declare God's wisdom, a mystery that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory."

Saturday, February 24, 2007

EVANGELISM: Partnering in God's Work on Campus

I recently have had very positive experiences doing conversational evangelism and I would like to share them. This year while being committed to conversational evangelism as a effective method of evangelism and continually teaching others about it I have done little of it myself this year. After York Moore's extremely encouraging and empowering training on evangelism a couple of weeks ago I was convicted that I needed to practice what I have been preaching. Mandy also had this conviction and committed to doing conversational evangelism with each of the servant leadership team members during our 1 on 1's.

Last Thursday Mandy and I met and were both very nervous but knew that we wanted to partner with God's work on campus. Once again fear set into my heart and I began thinking of all the excuses of why this wouldn't be a good idea and why there would be no one to talk to, but I was wrong. After a very encouraging time of prayer Mandy spotted a girl who was sitting alone eating and felt that would be a good person to ask.

We walked over and introduced ourselves, Mandy of course with her amazing gifts of compassion and gentleness, gave the introduction and asked if she would like to talk with us about her spiritual beliefs about Jesus. Her name was Abby and she said yes. Contrary to what I had thought in my head, she was very open to talking with us since we were open to her in what we wanted to talk about. After getting to know her a little I asked if I could share with her the Gospel of Jesus in a drawing. She said that was cool. And so I drew the bridge diagram and persisted to walk her through the full Gospel of Jesus and she intently listened to what I was sharing. I used the relevant information that she shared with us about herself and her spiritual background into the Gospel presentation. After that I asked her if she had heard this before and she wasn't really sure. She had heard bits and pieces of it. She then went on to say that she had gone through some kind of confirmation process. We weren't really sure where to go from there because she wasn't sure what to think. So we didn't push it we asked if we could pray for her and so we prayed for her. Then we exchanged information and she said she lives in Reinhard and wanted to get plugged in. So we got her information and passed it onto Ben, who is the Reinhard Community Group Leader.

I learned a lot from this experience. Mainly that going for awhile without doing conversational evangelism brings back all my fears and doubts about it. I loved seeing God work through our conversation and Mandy and I got to partner in it. This never would have happened if we didn't have the boldness to go out of our comfort zones and act on our belief that God is at work in people's hearts. Conversational evangelism is an amazingly effective way to partner with God in His work and I love it!